Sunday, November 27, 2011

11/17/11

Group Presentation:
Group 2

Intro
We have talked about in class how myth is found in the the present even though it is only thought to be in  found in the past. The problem is most people have forgotten about myth and they think it doesn't exist anymore. The problem with this idea is that myth is found in every day life and it has shaped the way we think.
Education , society and media has shaped the views of the world.  History and mythology both tell us that our past creates our future, so how have we lost sight of that? If we don’t know anything about the past then we are doomed to repeat it.
People that are higher in the society are compared to the gods. Their positions in the community are looked at like being impossible to attain for the “normal” person. People such as athletes go down in history as immortals, but obviously they are just as mortal as the rest of us. There life is portrayed by the way they spend their time and what they accomplish in their lives. These athletes ways of living seems unattainable to the normal human being. 
Infatuation is the belief that a person is no longer in control of a situation. This “obsession” with stereotypes have changed our perception of reality. We now don't think that mythology exists in present day life. Myth is the precedent behind every action, and all that is past possesses our present. Mythology is a big part of our past, present and future. 

Ice Breaker: We are showing pictures of actors, actresses and athletes of today and we want to compare their stereotypes to the ancient greek gods and goddesses

Charlie Sheen: portrayed on TV as an alcoholic womanizer. We related Charlie Sheen to Dionysus. Dionysus is known for possessing the mind. This could be comparable to the affect drugs have on a persons brain. These figures are two completely different beings, but both are seen as immortals. 

Michael Phelps: he is the god of the swimming pool. We compared him to Poseidon because he is the god of the ocean. Phelps a world record breaking gold medalist in the Olympics. The things he has accomplished in his life are thought to be impossible for the normal person to attain.

Elizabeth Taylor: We compared Taylor to Aphrodite. Aphrodite is known as the goddess of lust and love. Aphrodite was married to Hephestus but had many affairs with Ares in particular. Taylor was known for being very lustful. She played characters that were always the center of every mans attention. In real life Taylor was married about eight times and during her marriages she had many affairs.

Usain Bolt: Hermes and usain bolt do have similar personality characteristics in that both are cocky, and work towards the benefits of themselves. Usain is the fastest man in the world right now and he keeps breaking his own world records. 

Oprah: Queen of talk. We compared her to Zeus, the king of the gods. She is wise and very powerful. Both Zeus and Oprah are very powerful and have a lot of influence over the people that look up to them.
Our society has come up with these steryotypes based on what we learn in school and what the media tells us. These people have a big influence on how we act now. We learn from their mistakes and success. Historical figures have an even lager influence on our lives. These people have changed the way we act, say and think.


Andrew Jackson: Andrew Jackson- 7th president of the United States. He is know for his heroic acts in the war, especially the war of 1812. He was a tough man that had an aggressive personality that helped him defeat his opponents. He did not defer to Congress in policy- making but used his power of the veto and his party leadership to assume command. He was a very rich slave owner. His biggest feat was the indian removal act which was the plan to move all native americans west of the mississippi river.  Thus, came the trail of tears. People advocated and supported the total extermination of the native americans. The Cherokee nation was forced to give up its lands and to migrate to an area in present-day Oklahoma. The migrants faced hunger, disease, and exhaustion on the forced march. Over 4,000 Cherokees died. 
Jackson was responsible for molding the modern presidency. He was the embodiment of the belief that the president was the only official who represented all of the American people.

Conclusion
Over time the stories of historical people have changed. What we know of them now is only their stereotype that was created. Now all we think of when we think of certain people is just their stereotype. These historical and modern day people that we think of as god like are only known for what people want to remember them by. All these people are more than just their exemplified archetype.
The ancient gods and these historical and modern day people are all looked at the same. The gods are high beings but they mingle with the mortal beings on earth all of the time. It is the same with these historical figures. Time has only made us think of them as gods, but in all actuality they are just like the rest of us. They led regular lives just like everyone else. Before and after that person became president, queen, an actor or an actress they were just the same as every day people. Michael Phelps is only portrayed as god like when he is swimming during the olympics. But once that is over he is no longer a god, he is just an ordinary person, living an ordinary life. 
Mythology is a huge part of modern day society because it describes why people do the things they do. Life is a cycle of separation, initiation and transformation. The point of life is go back to the beginning but the beginning is different than it was when the person separated. A person is transformed by they experiences of life when they make the journey back to the beginning. Someday people will realize that mythology lives on in the present, it is the precedent behind every action. We do the things we do because of Myth.


11/15/11

"The room stank of ritual; and I have always loathed rituals of any kind" (pg. 499 The Magus).

Nicholas disliked rituals of any kind. If a person does not perform rituals then bad things will happen. Nicholas was obviously in a bad situation. He was drugged for a few days and then finally hand cuffed to a throne dressed like a cyclops. He put himself into bad situations for not believing in things. He never took anything serious which then put him into some pretty serious situations. He was very narcissistic so if something was about him or he was the center of attention then he kept doing that thing to keep the attention of everyone on him. He liked being in the trial and part of all of that because he was the star of the show. He was constantly thinking about how to act so they wouldn't expect the action he decided to do. Going against the expected makes him be the center of attention. The way he acted during the trial bothered me. I hated that he was always trying to make situations about him by making a scene and doing "unexpected" things. He loved being apart of Conchis' experiment because everything was about him and all of those people were working together to set up a situation or scene up for him.


Class Notes:
  • Assignment- 3 Page paper- in depth, specific about the book (The Magus) and mythology
  • Fiction= to make
  • Sacri= sacred
  • HOW DID IT ALL BEGIN?
    • We end where we begin
  • Chapter 45, page. 311 The Magus
    • "'All that is past possesses our present'"
  • The precedent is behind every action = All that is past possesses our present
    • A person carries their past around with them all of the time they must only focus on the present and the future
  • Masque
    •  certain type of theatre- plays put on in peoples houses
  • Simian
    • like a monkey
  • History
    • his story
  • Quotidian
    • usual, customary, everyday, ordinary
  • Collective Unconscious
    •  the collective is collective, impersonal; collects and organizes personal experiences in a similar way that each member of a particular species collects their experiences
    • pass from a personal unconscious to the collective unconscious
  • Taoism
    • the mechanism that everything exists; the word Tao means way, path or principle
  • Eliade 
    • Speculations on Man and God: The Ultimate Reality - Chung Tzu and the Butterfly
      • "Once upon a time, Chuang Chou dreamed that he was a butterfly, a butterfly fluttering about, enjoying itself. It did not know that it was Chuang Chou. Suddenly he awoke with a start and he was Chuang Chou again. But he did not know whether he was Chuang Chou who had dreamed that he was a butterfly, or whether he was a butterfly dreaming that he was Chuang Chou. Between Chuang Chou and the butterfly there must be some distinction. This is what is called the transformation of things.
  • Something becomes a sacred action when it is in remembrance of the divine
  • THE END OF THE END

Friday, November 25, 2011

11/10/11

"'Humor is a manifestation of freedom. It is because there is freedom that there is the smile. Only a totally predetermined universe could be without it. In the end it is only by becoming the victim that one escapes the ultimate joke-which is precisely to discover that by constantly slipping away one has slipped away. One exists no more, one is no longer free'" (The Magus pg. 437-38).

Happiness comes from other peoples suffering. From peoples suffering we get stories and music, which are both enjoyable things. Conchis is saying that if a person is without a smile or happiness they are not truly free. If everything is determined for a person then they cannot be free and therefore they cannot be happy. This makes sense because if a persons life is already determined for them then they don't have any freedom to choose if they want to do something or not because their actions are already determined for them. In most cases these people with predetermined lives don't feel free. A person can loose their sense of reality if things are already planned for them.


Class Notes:


  • The journey up is mythology
  • Transformation is a different place from where a person came from because that person went through the experiences of life, which changed them.

  • In the god game, everything is fiction.
  • Orpheus and Eurydice- Eurydice and Orpheus get married. Soon after Eurydice steps on a snake and dies. Orpheus goes to the land of the dead, he plays his lyre and convinces Hades to give him back his wife. Hades says yes but on one condition Orpheus cant look back to see if his wife is following him. Of course right before he is out of the underworld Orpheus looks back and sees his wife but she returns to the underworld forever.
  • Assignment: Find a passage in the Magus and talk about it
  • I can't remember when I learned the truth about Santa Clause. I just remember asking my parents if he was real and they told me that if I believe in him then he is, and if I don't then he is not. This made me mad because I wanted a real answer. Every year we still get presents from Santa and I like that because it keeps the myth alive.

Lift not the painted veil which those who live

Lift not the painted veil which those who live
Call Life: though unreal shapes be pictured there,
And it but mimic all we would believe
With colours idly spread,--behind, lurk Fear
And Hope, twin Destinies; who ever weave
Their shadows, o'er the chasm, sightless and drear.
I knew one who had lifted it--he sought,
For his lost heart was tender, things to love,
But found them not, alas! nor was there aught
The world contains, the which he could approve.
Through the unheeding many he did move,
A splendour among shadows, a bright blot
Upon this gloomy scene, a Spirit that strove
For truth, and like the Preacher found it no

  • The Bhagavada Gita
    • I am reading this for one of my other classes that I'm taking. The situation that started the war was over which son got the throne when their father died. The king of the land was getting old so his oldest son was supposed to take over the kingdom but he was blind, so the younger son took the throne. The older son was upset about this and tried to take back the throne by trying to kill his brothers family. He succeeded in getting the kingdom, but not in killing his brothers family. Both families fought and tried to out smart the other. One time a member of each family gambled. The person that lost would have to go into the woods with their family and live in exile for 15 years. The youngest son's family lost and was sent to the woods. After 15 years they were supposed to get the kingdom back but when the time came the blind older brother would not give up the throne. Then the war began. Arjuna (the warrior in that video we watched in class) is the son of the youngest son. Arjuna is a great warrior and Krishna (God) is telling him that he has to fight in the war. Arjuna does not want to fight because he does not want to kill his own family members. Krishna tells him that he is supposed to fight because that is his duty as a warrior. Also, that when a person dies only their body dies, there soul lives on. Death is only a part of life.

  • All reality is fiction

Saturday, November 12, 2011

11/8/11

"Come live with me, and be my love;             
And we will all the pleasures prove
That hills and valleys, dales and fields,
Woods, or steepy mountain yields.

And we will sit upon the rocks, 
Seeing the shepherds feed their flocks 
By shallow rivers, to whose falls 
Melodious birds sing madrigals.

And I will make thee beds of roses 
And a thousand fragrant posies; 
A cap of flowers, and a kirtle 
Embroidered all with leaves of myrtle;

A gown made of the finest wool 
Which from our pretty lambs we pull; 
Fair-lined slippers for the cold, 
With buckles of the purest gold;

A belt of straw and ivy-buds, 
With coral clasps and amber-studs: 
And if these pleasures may thee move, 
Come live with me, and be my love.

The shepherd-swains shall dance and sing 
For thy delight each May-morning: 
If these delights thy mind may move, 
Then live with me and be my love."



This poem is found in the England's Helicon written by: Christopher Marlowe. The poem is called: The Passionate Shepherd to his Love.
Nicholas reads this poem after finding out that Alison had killed herself. Nicholas seems a little upset by Alison's death but at the same time I felt like he seemed a little relieved that she was gone and he didn't have to deal with her anymore. The news of Alison's death was kind of shocking. She didn't seem like the type of girl that would care about being turned down by a guy. 
I liked how Nicholas chose to read this poem after hearing about Alison. It kind of relates to the last experiences that the two of them had together. When they hiked the mountain, sat at the top of it, saw the shepherd with his sheep and swam in a pool with a waterfall. 

Class Notes:
  • The end is always frustrating
  • The tibetan book of the dead is a book about the rituals humans have to perform to get to the land of the dead.
  • The Swerve- Written by Stephen Greenblatt
    • The book is about a man that finds the last surviving manuscript of an ancient Roman philosophical epic, On the Nature of Things by Lucretius, in a library. The man that found the book ordered it to be copied. The manuscript was a poem talking about the idea that the universe functions without the help of the gods, that the religious fear was damaging to human life. Also that matter was made of small particles in eternal motion, colliding and swerving in different directions. The manuscript described the way things were, it was the creation of the modern world.
  • Death is a problem fro the family. The world will not concern the person anymore, the spirit of the dead will return back to where it came from.
    • All of life is a preparation for death.
  • Read: The Movement of Death as Described by the Upanishads found in the Eliade book.
  • Myths help us realize what we are supposed to do when a person dies.
  • Eschatology- last of final events of the history of the world or of humankind; a belief concerning death, the end of the world or the ultimate destiny of humankind
  • Metempsychosis- the soul can never be destroyed or killed
  • Parabola- quarterly print magazine about the study of the myths, rituals, symbols and arts of the worlds spiritual traditions; the story which is told to illustrate a certain point and deconstructs the point which is wanted to be known
    • The transmigration of the soul- Eliada
    • The person you thought would help you in a time of need didn't. This is the side of the parabola: the attack on the structure of your expectations
  • Gasang Ist Dasein- song is existance
  • The Story of the Ant and the Grasshopper
    • We are here in order to see, hear and say things. The grasshopper enjoyed the summer and played the fiddle rather than preparing for winter. The ant gathered food for winter all summer and had no fun. The moral of the story is hard work and foresight. The ant prepared for winter and once winter came, the ant was prepared and the grasshopper had fun. But what is life really about? Having fun and enjoying life or is it all about working and suffering to gain something in the end? What should life really be about? 
  • Cicada
    • The muses taught humans how to sing. The people learned how to sing and sung forever and forgot to eat, drink and sleep. They died from this and the god turned them into bugs so they could sing always and forever.

11/3/11

"I was like of of Ulysses' sailors - turned into a swine, and able now only to be my new self" (The Magus pg. 279).


Nicholas is talking about having to accept that the situation he is in and that is has changed him forever. Alison told him that he shoulnd't always expect that Conchis, the girls and the house will all be there the next time he goes to visit. He should come back to reality and accept that whatever is going on at Conchis' house is not reality and she is. Nicholas thinks that Alison doesn't get it because she is not experiencing what he is. He believes that he has changed to much to ever be with her again. The book is about Nicholas going through experiences that were planned ahead of time. The whole point of this is for him to learn something. He doesn't seem to care for the experiences, all he wants is this new girl that he knows nothing about.

Today in class we took the second test.

Thursday, November 3, 2011

11/1/11

Test Review:


Calasso
page. 209-212 the four stories that make up the quaternary (personalty profile by briggs that has to do with feelings, sensation, intuition, kore means pupil
zeus-thinking (up)
athena-sensation (out) community, goddess of the city
dionysus- feeling (down) pure unadulterated feeling, incubus, chthonic- of the underworld, disassemble social identity to get you away from all real feelings
demeter- intuition (in)  mother and daughter
page 209: persephone being abducted by hades; narcissus flower; narcissist- obsessed with themselves. to look at the very acting of looking at yourself
calls persephone Kore
triple goddess represented by three women: mother, daughter and krone 
page. 225-226 athena, hephestus chops open zeus’ head to release athena
page 244- mysteries of eleusis, greeks respect it more than anything else
pg 336- how would you define homeric (that is all you get, what you see) theology?
“what we call homeric....supremacy of the visible”
  • theology( religion-that what we see) that gives power to that, that is visible to you
  • When you can no longer see you have nothing (daylight and light)
  • everything is done in the sun, in the light
chapter 11 pg. 359- “how do the heros....extinction...destiny for us...bards”
  • why do we suffer?
    • we suffer to sacrifice ourselves for the happiness of others
  • “this is the work of the gods....future”
chapter 12 pg. 383-391
  • definition of myth
  • marriage of cadmus and harmony
    • last time the gods and humans got together for dinner
  • the gods were an invasion of the mind and the body when they hung out with the humans
  • what conclusions can we draw? ....no stories” pg.387
  • cadmus is the founder of Thebes- greatest disaster cadmus gives to the world is the fly’s feet “vowels and consonants....” gave the humans the alphabet 
calasso ended the book with how he started it

Eliade book:
Homeric Sacrifice for the Dead #95
Initiation of the Warrior #145
Dionysus and the Bacchae #147
The Eleusinian Mysteries #148
Death and Initiation in the Mysteries #149
The Taurobolium #150
The Decent of Ishtar to the Nether World #158
rites and rituals

Questions:
  1. What does spiritus mundi mean? the spirit of the world
  1.   At the marriage of Cadmus and Harmony, what animals draw the chariot?  the bore and the lion
  2. What country are the Nacirema tribe from? America
  3. Which of the three things in the Eleusinian mysteries was the origin of theater? the thing done becomes the the origin
  4. What is the study of the soul? psychology- the study of the soul
  5. Who at birth was her beauty only appreciated by her father (she had two faces, four eyes and horns)? persephone page 204
  6. What is the origin of our legal/judicial system? the story of orestes-athena
  7. What is the term where a women take over the night where they can do whatever they want to do to men, with out any consequences?  Der Tote Toge (day of the dead)
  8. What is the animal that is associated with the Taurobolium? a bull
  9. What makes something sacred? giving it a name, ritualize our thinking to make it sacred, something is made sacred it is not sacred at the beginning
  10. According to your instructor who is the real hero? me, us; we are all heroic
  11. James Joyces novel which talks about an ordinary man and an ordinary day. This story is modeled after what greek hero? Odysseus
  12. According to the irish poet WB Gates in his poem the second coming....history is composed of two thousand year cycles; which comes from the visitation of a _______ who impregnates a _________? bird and a woman
  13. What is the greek image for the soul? image of a butterfly
  14. Who did Zeus eat and gained wisdom? Metis
  15. Which word best typifies a space carved out in which sacred rituals are carried out? Temenos
  16. Who is the god of the double (dithyramb[os]) door and what does it mean? Dionysus- was born twice: mother- simile, father from his leg- zeus
  17. Someone heard a divine voice at the end of the pagan world that said ___________? The Great Pan is Dead
  18. What is the fundamental difference between the god and the hero? morality- the gods don't die. the heros life is more fun
  19. When do the furies get pissed? kill your mother; dont kill anyone in your blood line
  20. What is the religious significance  of the story of cupid and psyche according to your instructor? the psychological development of the feminine 
  21. Which ritual came up 4 times or more during our presentations? rain making ritual
  22. What is the name of the girl that the king threw a sandal in her face? Charila What aspect of this ritual involves a thrown sandal?
  23. What greek play shows the clash between tradition and the state? Antigone This is the play in which a young woman buries her brother even though her burying her brother is punished by death?
  24. What is the latin root that we get the word senator? Senex
  25. Which of these definitions would be the best for archetype? an ancient or primordial image which is found universally in mythology; fairy tale and fantasy
  26. Which Eleusinian mystery pertains to fertility during a certain month? maypole
  27. The 22 points of the hero formula. Who covers most of the points in hero formula? Oedipus
  28. In this class which christian ritual did we discuss that had to deal with death and rebirth? baptism
  29. Why did Demeter put the baby in the fire? to make him immortal
  30. If you have someone in your family who is a daddies girl, whose archetype is she modeling? Athena

the great pan is dead
WB yeates: the second coming

Tuesday, November 1, 2011

10/27/11

"'Not all powers have to be discovered, some have to be regained.'" (pg. 191 The Magus)
Nicholas is reading the Society for Reason pamphlets that Conchis gave him to read. The pamphlet this quote came from is the On Communication With Other Worlds, which talks about telepathy. Which basically talks about how everyone can have a telepathic experience, they just have to relearn what they "already" know. The person must be aware of their own conscious beings to rediscover telepathy.

Class Notes:

  • When the words, "The great Pan is dead" were spoken, the whole mythological world died too.
  • When one story ends, another story begins.
    • Every 2000 years a new story is started that involves a bird and a woman. The bird visits the woman and then impregnates her, which produces a child that changes the world.
      • Mary was impregnated by a bird (the holy spirit) 
  • Mentomony- end of mythological phase
William Butler Yeats (1865-1939)
       THE SECOND COMING
    Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.
    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
    The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
    When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
    Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
    A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
    Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.
    The darkness drops again but now I know
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?


  • Revelation- The End
  • Sprites Mundi- spirit world; sprit of the world
  • The Nature of Secrecy- it is not the thing that is sacred- names something and it becomes that
    • The strength of belief creates the thing

  • The Black Stone is a Muslim relic which according to Islamic tradition dates back to Adam and Eve. The stone became a place of worship during the pre-Islamic pagan times. The ritual is to rub and kiss the stone. If they cannot reach the stone then they point at it each of the seven times they walk around it.












                    Gerard Hopkins (1844-89)
                        7. God's Grandeur
THE WORLD is charged with the grandeur of God.
  It will flame out, like shining from shook foil;
  It gathers to a greatness, like the ooze of oil
Crushed. Why do men then now not reck his rod?
Generations have trod, have trod, have trod;        5
  And all is seared with trade; bleared, smeared with toil;
  And wears man’s smudge and shares man’s smell: the soil
Is bare now, nor can foot feel, being shod.
And for all this, nature is never spent;
  There lives the dearest freshness deep down things;        10
And though the last lights off the black West went
  Oh, morning, at the brown brink eastward, springs—
Because the Holy Ghost over the bent
  World broods with warm breast and with ah! bright wings.
    • The Mind has Mountains
  • We need to change the way we see things, they way we think, they way we say things, the way we do things and the way we hear things. We are without depth, mythology is gone.
  • Looking and seeing are two different things.
  • Myers Briggs Personality Test
    • Extraverted- the exterior world
      • Thinking
      • Sensation
    • Introverted
      • Intuition
      • Feeling
    • Zeus' story is very extraverted. He represents thinking (up). He gained knowledge and wisdom when he hate his wife. He also figured out how to keep his position as head god and not get overthrown by his children.
    • Athena represents sensation (out). She is connected with the birth of Athens.
    • Demeter represents intuition (in). The secret of the mother and the daughter- Eleusinian Mysteries
    • Dionysus represents feeling (down). Moist, liquid, here today and gone tomorrow, deepest bodily needs, stop thinking, intoxication, god of the double door (Dionysus was born first from a woman and then Zeus' thigh), part of something that is not you. Dionysus drives you out of your mind when it is time. If you don't do what he says then you will go crazy. Always go with Dionysus.
  • Ecstasy- possessed
  • Carl Jung was a student of the soul. He came up with the theory of typology, which is a type of human behavior. It is based on behavioral tendencies. 
    • Soul
      • dreams 
      • fantasy
  • Cupid and Psyche
    • there story shows up in a lot of disney movies such as: beauty and the beast, snow white and cinderella
  • Psyche- the study of the soul